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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:07 am    Post subject: The Revenant Discussion Reply with quote

Here's a thread to discuss my rp thread. I figured it was good thing to do so that it wouldn't clutter up the other thread. I thought of stuff!

I thought of two characters that you guys could play, basically. I have no idea where it's gonna go, but we'll just have fun with this. Not plan it too much. I really wanted to do a horror thread, so there has to be someone who's scared but gets more involved. This someone was searching for his tomb because he's famous royalty that was fierce in battle and was known for his misleading beauty. She or he would be part of the team, perhaps just arriving in a car or whatever since s/he prolly came from far away to see his tomb. So it would be a shock when s/he recognized him a bit from old paintings and sees him running around. I figure that they would want to put him to rest and we all know how to get rid of a revenant. That's not very pleasant for him (^_^; ) So this person's role is really the antagonist against the revenant and guardian.

The next character would be the guardian of the tomb, or the prison warden, or whatever. A companion of the revenant that died in the same battle but after him. The revenant kind of blames him on failing to protect him and to keep him alive. Because his wound wasn't that bad, but something happened and they both ended up dying. I don't know why yet. The guardian would make that up.

Does this sound good? What do you guys think?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does the revenant look like? I want something to make him stand out, and I want him to actually be scary instead of just undead. Was he alive the whole time? Was he just resurrected? I don't know anything about revenants, so I don't know how to kill them. What if the guardian was just some native guy that was told to protect the tomb, though he may not know exactly what's in it. Like it's just a traditional role in his society. Or maybe the revenant was actually stored away by his enemies because he just wouldn't die, despite everything that happened to him. So they imprisoned him, destroyed his nation and everyone that ever knew about him, and the guardian is supposed to make sure he never escapes. What can the revenant do anything that's all that horrifying? In modern day, a single undead person wouldn't be able to do much unless they're a zombie and like spread zomb-ism.

I loved the undead in Warhammer. Particularly the tomb kings! Priests tried to make eternal life, but only managed to extend their lives for hundreds of years... but they still practically decayed that whole time. Then this evil necromancer poisoned all the rivers in the land, and everyone died and later became undead and mindless, except the kings and princes because they had special enchantments on them. They became undead, but they were still in control of themselves. Then the necromancer used magic to create vampires, and the vampires went off and did their own thing and became evil and had zombie armies. So the Tomb Kings and the Vampire Counts are huge enemies, because the Tomb Kings are really pissed off for coming back to life as a skeleton (they thought they'd have bodies made of gold when they came back to life) and they're really pissed off because the necromancer killed every living thing in the land (they thought they'd come back to beautiful gardens and... living people).

My favorite character of the tomb kings is this queen lady, and I thought she was really cool looking because they somehow gave her marble skin that could move... it was like enchanted or something, but half of her marble face was broken off, so you could still see her skull.

I don't know much about the archaelogist. Could be fun. I dont know much to do about it, but it could be fun.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The revenant has silver/grey hair and very faded eyes, almost white. And his skin is very pale. He was looking at himself which was the only time I spoke about what he looks like. He was once beautiful but he looks pretty dead now, probably has blue-ish lips even.

Well in his case he was shut up in the tomb in the old battlefield after he'd been dead awhile. Before he was in the royal family's catacombs, most likely, but he didn't rot away and terrorized the city at night. It got bad enough that they needed to do something but he was royalty so they couldn't mutilate him and burn him, so they made the tomb and shut him up in it. He 'slumbered' for this whole time since being put in it. However, the woman opened the seal and allowed him out, basically.

You kill a revenant, at least how I'm thinking of them from medieval times, by cutting out their heart, beheading them, and burning them. Kind of like vampires, that's actually where the vampires came from for the West because they were mostly in other places, not really West Europe if I remember correctly.

That's a good idea, maybe the prison warden and the guardian are different. The prison warden could be another character, but it would make sense that someone would watch over the tomb.

As for his powers, he's very strong so far. Haven't made much up yet. Revenants were really more like scary nuisances back in the day. I'm thinking that I'll alter him so that he's powerful in other ways. He'd have to discover those powers though. One thing was that revenants spread disease, and were blamed for epidemics. That's a passive power though.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Undead only scare me when they're on hordes, really. So I might have a hard time imagining him being scary... Maybe could be attractive and still scary... like that queen that I mentioned with the marble skin. She was a fierce ho. And she had a staff in the shape of a snake that could come to life (^_^) And armored claws on one hand that were like a foot long (like the lady from x-men, only she had like a gauntlet with foot-long claws on the fingers) and the other hand was withered and gross, but suggested she had natural claws of the same magnitude of the armored one. And he shouldn't be able to speak the vernacular. he should speak some dead language and no one understands him, and he has a weird, echo-y voice. What would he do when he has come back to life? When I think of the undead thing that I'm trying to portray, they would act out of self-defense or the defense of their tomb. But then he'd have an army of undead that he controls and he'd march them out and destroy anything that got in their way. And if he has a guardian like what you described, he should be a spy or something, and the punishment for his betrayel on the battelfield is eternal wakefulness and never being allowed to sleep. And the revenant shoudl clearly have magic in this case, because he could be shot down in physical combat. If there are cars, there are guns. The gun is mightier than the sword. But I see everything within a radius of him instantly dying, plants, animals and stuff like that. Maybe he's like a soul-stealer or something. He was withered, but he consumes the souls of all living things and he regenerates. And maybe he only managed to get out of the tomb because some unfortunate soul wandered into his lair and he was able to consume it. But surely the people that made the tomb wouldn't make it possible for him to just walk out. I would say he was buried alive and a stone floor was made on top of him. Not only would he be cast away, he'd also suffer for the hundreds or thousands of years that he was trapped... buried alive, unable to even move. An undead person, if it was a subtle transition, would have to get used to the idea of not needing to breath or drink or eat, so he'd probably suffer trying to inhale and only getting dirt in his lungs. He would clearly want revenge for such things. I still think it would be cooler if he was shut in by his enemies... that means in battle he could have been the very last one out of his army to be fighting, and he would fight endlessly because he's unable to die, so they just had to overwhelm him and bury him. So in that case he'd probably want revenge and kill every single person that decended from the people that trapped him like that... thought that's still a really vague idea.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoa buddy, that's a lot of ideas there. Lol. He's not really scary, per se, except that he's dead. I could imagine he steals souls though. He *is* attractive but scary at the same time. Or at least he used to be attractive, but he looks dead so that's not exactly attractive.

Basically revenants are people who died but had sin and were criminals in life. He was a really bad person, though he can't remember that very well by this point. Basically he's been entombed and for awhile he just lay there and fumed but after awhile he just kind of... zoned out permanently. I can imagine a dead person being capable of that. Really, I'm altering the revenant idea to how I please and just being creative with it. Perhaps the disease you get around him makes you almost-die, and you become like a zombie. That might be cool. Kinda overused though...

Mostly it would be cool if he just got people to "work" under him as soldiers and then he amasses an army to kill everyone. Especially when he finds out that they defeated his country and now still technically rule, though the old civilization has died out to modern times.

Dunno, we can go a lot of places with it. For the guardian, you can do whatever you want. I'm not going to demand anything in particular. It would be cool if the enemy couldn't defeat him because he wouldn't die, but I already made up that he was killed by enemies who snuck in the camp. Or maybe someone else, it's hazy. They're usually buried and that's when they go around and annoy people, so I stuck with that. :-\
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the ideas I try to give you always inspire me to do my own thing. Now I want to make a character that can't die (or at the very least can't feel pain). I remember back when I played warhammer I always had a daydream about my tomb king, who is fully skeletal except for some shreds of dried flesh clinging to him, in a dark room hiring mercenaries. And the tomb kings spoke a dead language, so basically they'd just communicate by the king giving the guy a bag of money. The idea of an undead mummy/skeleton walking around amongst the living at night in a heavy cloak, who is still fully in control of himself, logical and intelligent, seems very cool to me.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, we could have two undead people walking around and have them be buddies or fight each other if you want. Lol. Undead things are just cool for some reason... except for the rotting, gross ones. But like vampires and the tomb kings you're talking about, which remind me of the Lich guys. I think they're D&D tho.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Undead vs. Undead is always really cool. I liked it a lot in Warhammer, because you would assume anything that is undead is evil, but they still have "good undead" vs. "bad undead." I would be pissed off, too, if I was brought back to life as a mummy and see that my entire nation is dead and turned into a desert.

Anyway, if we made our characters enemies we'll actually have some kind of plot going on. I'd cry if your character just went around killing random people. I don't think I'd be able to contribute anything if your story turned out like that. Naturally, I'd force you to be the badguy and say that the king or whatever he is, was an evil tyrant bent on world domination. I just want to know why they can't die. If it's magic, it would have to be one hell of a spell that could never, ever be done again. Or God is trying to make a reality TV show and decided to make two random people immortal enemies.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not trying to make it fantasy, really, just a horror story. There's really no reason it happened, except that he's was a bad guy in life. I suppose I could expand that but I wasn't planning on it.

I think it might be cool if your character was the prison warden that terrorized him. He died on the same battlefield, I guess he committed treason and was greedy or something and that's why he's a revenant now. But maybe they put him in with royalty because they thought he died protecting the royal guy but that's not true. Something like that, perhaps. He's not really the guardian if that's the case, he prolly escaped with Royal, that's what I'm calling him for now, and so that's where you could introduce him, see what he's doing.

However, you can just do whatever you want with your character. It's just for fun. I want it to be like a scary kind of thing rather than magical, though.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's impossible to do scary when the story is in the perspective of the badguy. A really scary story has to be an ordinary, weak person that is confronted by a much stronger force. A zombie movie wouldn't work if it was from the POV of a zombie rather than a victem
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't mean like, really try to scare someone. But just like an evil story, I guess. I don't know! I just want to roleplay something and not plan it! (@_@)

I did want an ordinary person like a historian to be there and perhaps eventually be his true death or something.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG! I totally know what I'm going to do now! I have a plan! I know you don't like plans, but I think I'll tell you just so I'm not the only one in the loop. I will play as Death, or Death personified. Actually, play might be a good term to use for it, too. But this guy that you are playing as won't die, and that will just not do. So I will be hunting down the revenant! hahahahahahahah!!! It'd be awkward, too, because the revenant is evil, death is considered evil, but death is trying to kill the revenant, so in this case death would be sort of like the hero.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet. That does sound cool. You could really roleplay that well!!

I hope "Dark" will join in as the historian or something though...
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there another name for Death? So I don't have to say "Death did this" and "Death did that"... ti'd be weird after a while.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't give Death a name. And don't say Death, it would be stupid. Are you having like a personified version of Death or is it metaphorical or something? You could write up something really cool if it was like, not like the Reaper and just like... a metaphor. (@_@)
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